[POST-CEIT-facultycouncil] Another proposal
Robert Domingo
Robert.Domingo at liu.edu
Mon Mar 23 09:37:14 EDT 2015
In CSD, we have the current M/W and T/TH schedules, but we also periodically use Friday as a day to offer 2nd (or 3rd) sections of undergrad classes, that meet once weekly. I personally prefer that schedule option. I will also determine how faculty feel, but suspect that "if it isn't broke, why fix it".
Thanks, Bob ("feed me")
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From: post-ceit-facultycouncil-bounces at lists-1.liu.edu [post-ceit-facultycouncil-bounces at lists-1.liu.edu] on behalf of Roberta Levitt [Roberta.Levitt at liu.edu]
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 1:28 AM
To: Michele Dornisch; post-ceit-facultycouncil at lists-1.liu.edu
Cc: Barbara Garii
Subject: Re: [POST-CEIT-facultycouncil] Another proposal
Hello, all,
Michele’s latest option seems to work best! Several of you have suggested scheduling ideas and have responded back and forth to each other. After reading the different points of view, I, , too, have been reflecting again and again. I think the M/W, T/Th, and departments using Fridays for their needs/students may work the best.
Is it possible to have two/three days for common hour?
Also, if classes start at 3:30, please, consider that the Special Education and Literacy classes start at 5:00pm.
Thank you,
Roberta
Roberta Levitt, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Special Education and Literacy
College of Education, Information and Technology
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From: Michele Dornisch <Michele.Dornisch at liu.edu<mailto:Michele.Dornisch at liu.edu>>
Date: Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 8:11 PM
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Subject: [POST-CEIT-facultycouncil] Another proposal
Hi folks,
If you have comments on the two proposed schedules I sent earlier, please keep them coming. I’ve heard from a few members of Special Education and Literacy – and a few members of Physical Education.
Here’s an option that I proposed having read those messages as well as the ones from the Faculty Council conversation that has been ongoing on this issue:
· Keep the M/W and the T/TH schedule and have every department indicate how it will use Fridays (we have had many different examples of ways in which departments use Fridays, and teacher education programs could use it specifically for fieldwork required by state regulations and to develop partnerships with schools required by accreditation).
· Departments such as Physical Education, which will be heavily affected by students in sports programs, should be able to provide a rationale for not offering 8am classes (this would also address concerns of some of the SVPA faculty).
· Only courses that are offered also at other times (e.g., courses for which there are multiple sections) and perhaps core courses, as Nancy suggested (courses for which students have multiple options) should likely be offered at 8am. This would mean those students who cannot get here on time would not take them and it would further address the issues with athletes.
· 3:30 courses should be offered as much as possible with courses for which there is only one section, which would mean students would have to take them. However, we would have to really do some major coordination between departments if we move in that direction.
The proposal above would not eliminate the common hour. Based on a recent survey of students, it appears that a larger percentage of students appreciate the common hour than those who do not. Also, with a strategic plan goal of increasing student engagement, there will need to be some time for student life. Student engagement, as we know, is related to retention…
So, for now, this is a third proposal. It really isn’t that different form the one put forth by the faculty except that it allows for at least some more flexibility (using Fridays in different ways based on departmental needs) and it allows for some programs to perhaps not offer 8am courses, depending on their other schedules. There are suggestions about the sorts of courses that might be best offered at 8am, as there are about the sorts of courses that might be best offered at 3:30pm.
Again, feedback is really helpful because we would like to have an overall picture of how this affects us all across campus in order to make some reasonable counter-proposals.
So, those in C&I, Phys Ed, and Comm Sci and Disorders, we especially would like to hear from you since you all have undergraduate programs of study.
Thanks.
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Michele M. Dornisch, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
LIU Post
516-299-3676
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