[Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Fw: Re: Assignment #4
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Wed Oct 7 08:31:13 EDT 2009
I am glad to hear everyone is on the same page!
And I do feel the author boxes ones thoughts.
I will be stealing a bit of everyone's answers because it all about having
a "bag of tricks".
In a message dated 10/7/2009 8:05:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
aberbenick at gmail.com writes:
Ha! I like that. No, I understand now and thank you both for the
contributions. :)
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:39 PM, John Casquarelli <_jcas888 at yahoo.com_
(mailto:jcas888 at yahoo.com) > wrote:
Same here, Alicia. Strictly speaking in terms of how the author of the
book presents methods in which a student can learn from and write. I guess,
if every method for teaching writing was discussed in that book, we might
be reading material the length of the Oxford English Dictionary (for all our
sakes, I'm glad that's not the case). See you in class.
Best regards
--- On Wed, 10/7/09, anthony eid <_anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com_
(mailto:anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com) > wrote:
From: anthony eid <_anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com_
(mailto:anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com) >
Subject: Re: [Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Fw: Re: Assignment #4
To: "alicia berbenick" <_aberbenick at gmail.com_
(mailto:aberbenick at gmail.com) >
Cc: "John Casquarelli" <_jcas888 at yahoo.com_ (mailto:jcas888 at yahoo.com) >,
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Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 1:01 AM
Oh no no Alicia I wasn't saying that of you but the author. Sorry, I need
to clarify that. From hearing you speak about your students I can tell you
don't label and take the time to ride the ever changing wave of
descriptions rumbling in a student.
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:55 PM, alicia berbenick <_aberbenick at gmail.com_
(http://mc/compose?to=aberbenick@gmail.com) > wrote:
Hi guys,
No, to clarify, I was simply trying to point out that I have noticed
myself imposing my own methods of writing on others - without even giving a
thought to the fact that people learn to group and organize ideas in many
different ways. Reading about other methods in this chapter gave me some ideas.
Sorry that I must have came off as a "labeler" of people.
Alicia
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM, John Casquarelli <_jcas888 at yahoo.com_
(http://mc/compose?to=jcas888@yahoo.com) > wrote:
--- On Tue, 10/6/09, John Casquarelli <_jcas888 at yahoo.com_
(http://mc/compose?to=jcas888@yahoo.com) > wrote:
From: John Casquarelli <_jcas888 at yahoo.com_
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Subject: Re: [Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Assignment #4
To: "anthony eid" <_anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com_
(http://mc/compose?to=anthonyeid1986@gmail.com) >
Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 7:34 PM
I agree with you Tony. Far too often it feels like academe prescribes
learning systems that fit neatly in a box, allowing little creative
diversity both from the perspective of the student and the teacher. Not that
any of the systems descibed in the book are not effective (I have used a
couple myself when tutoring), but people can learn how to write in any number
of ways (some not so concrete). In addition, as I have experienced first
hand in the short time that I've worked at the writing center, ESL students
bring another element to the equation of writing (learning to write in
different ways because of culture, etc.), and how many of us try to teach
writing.
--- On Tue, 10/6/09, anthony eid <_anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com_
(http://mc/compose?to=anthonyeid1986@gmail.com) > wrote:
From: anthony eid <_anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com_
(http://mc/compose?to=anthonyeid1986@gmail.com) >
Subject: Re: [Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Assignment #4
To: "Alicia Berbenick" <_aberbenick at gmail.com_
(http://mc/compose?to=aberbenick@gmail.com) >
Cc: _bkn-english-646-fall-2009 at lists-1.liu.edu_
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Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 3:32 PM
I didn't like how the author prescribed specific methods to specific
learners. I think it would have worked better to vaguely allude to the learners
and not display them connected so concretely. For me, it is not learners
but situations that guide my sessions. Students are multi-faceted bundles
of writing history. Once you uncover one method that works to one issue
that same issue may pop up and the method you used may be ineffective.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Alicia Berbenick <_aberbenick at gmail.com_
(http://us.mc458.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aberbenick@gmail.com) > wrote:
Here you are all!
Alicia
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