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<DIV>I am glad to hear everyone is on the same page!<BR>And I do feel the author
boxes ones thoughts.<BR>I will be stealing a bit of everyone's answers because
it all about having a "bag of tricks".</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 10/7/2009 8:05:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
aberbenick@gmail.com writes:</DIV>
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like that. No, I understand now and thank you both for the contributions.
:)<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:39 PM, John Casquarelli <SPAN
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vAlign=top>Same here, Alicia. Strictly speaking in terms of how
the author of the book presents methods in which a student can learn
from and write. I guess, if every method for teaching writing
was discussed in that book, we might be reading material the length of
the Oxford English Dictionary (for all our sakes, I'm glad that's not
the case). See you in class.<BR><BR>Best regards
<DIV class=im><BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 10/7/09, anthony eid <I><<A
title=mailto:anthonyeid1986@gmail.com
href="mailto:anthonyeid1986@gmail.com"
target=_blank>anthonyeid1986@gmail.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=im><BR>From: anthony eid <<A
title=mailto:anthonyeid1986@gmail.com
href="mailto:anthonyeid1986@gmail.com"
target=_blank>anthonyeid1986@gmail.com</A>><BR></DIV>Subject: Re:
[Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Fw: Re: Assignment #4<BR>To: "alicia
berbenick" <<A title=mailto:aberbenick@gmail.com
href="mailto:aberbenick@gmail.com"
target=_blank>aberbenick@gmail.com</A>><BR>Cc: "John Casquarelli"
<<A title=mailto:jcas888@yahoo.com
href="mailto:jcas888@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>jcas888@yahoo.com</A>>, <A
title=mailto:bkn-english-646-fall-2009@lists-1.liu.edu
href="mailto:bkn-english-646-fall-2009@lists-1.liu.edu"
target=_blank>bkn-english-646-fall-2009@lists-1.liu.edu</A><BR>Date:
Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 1:01 AM
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<DIV>Oh no no Alicia I wasn't saying that of you but the author.
Sorry, I need to clarify that. From hearing you speak about your
students I can tell you don't label and take the time to ride the
ever changing wave of descriptions rumbling in a student. <BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:55 PM, alicia
berbenick <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
title=http://mc/compose?to=aberbenick@gmail.com
href="http://mc/compose?to=aberbenick@gmail.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>aberbenick@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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guys, <BR>No, to clarify, I was simply trying to point out that I
have noticed myself imposing my own methods of writing on others -
without even giving a thought to the fact that people learn to
group and organize ideas in many different ways. Reading about
other methods in this chapter gave me some ideas. Sorry that I
must have came off as a "labeler" of people. <BR><FONT
color=#888888><BR>Alicia</FONT>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM, John
Casquarelli <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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href="http://mc/compose?to=jcas888@yahoo.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>jcas888@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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vAlign=top><BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 10/6/09, John
Casquarelli <I><<A
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John Casquarelli <<A
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href="http://mc/compose?to=jcas888@yahoo.com"
target=_blank
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[Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Assignment #4<BR>To:
"anthony eid" <<A
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href="http://mc/compose?to=anthonyeid1986@gmail.com"
target=_blank
rel=nofollow>anthonyeid1986@gmail.com</A>><BR>Date:
Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 7:34 PM<BR><BR>
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<TD vAlign=top>I agree with you Tony. Far
too often it feels like academe prescribes
learning systems that fit neatly in a box,
allowing little creative diversity both from the
perspective of the student and the teacher.
Not that any of the systems descibed in the
book are not effective (I have used a couple
myself when tutoring), but people can learn how to
write in any number of ways (some not so
concrete). In addition, as I have
experienced first hand in the short time that I've
worked at the writing center, ESL students bring
another element to the equation of
writing (learning to write in different ways
because of culture, etc.), and how many of us try
to teach writing.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 10/6/09,
anthony eid <I><<A
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wrote:<BR>
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anthony eid <<A
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href="http://mc/compose?to=anthonyeid1986@gmail.com"
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Re: [Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Assignment
#4<BR>To: "Alicia Berbenick" <<A
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href="http://mc/compose?to=aberbenick@gmail.com"
target=_blank
rel=nofollow>aberbenick@gmail.com</A>><BR>Cc:
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rel=nofollow>bkn-english-646-fall-2009@lists-1.liu.edu</A><BR>Date:
Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 3:32 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV>I didn't like how the author prescribed
specific methods to specific learners. I think
it would have worked better to vaguely allude to
the learners and not display them connected so
concretely. For me, it is not learners but
situations that guide my sessions. Students
are multi-faceted bundles of writing history.
Once you uncover one method that works to one
issue that same issue may pop up and the
method you used may be ineffective.
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at
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