[Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Fw: Re: Assignment #4

[alicia berbenick]

Ha! I like that. No, I understand now and thank you both for the
contributions. :)

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:39 PM, John Casquarelli <jcas888 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Same here, Alicia.  Strictly speaking in terms of how the author of the
> book presents methods in which a student can learn from and write.  I guess,
> if every method for teaching writing was discussed in that book, we might be
> reading material the length of the Oxford English Dictionary (for all our
> sakes, I'm glad that's not the case).  See you in class.
>
> Best regards
>
> --- On *Wed, 10/7/09, anthony eid <anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: anthony eid <anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Fw: Re: Assignment #4
> To: "alicia berbenick" <aberbenick at gmail.com>
> Cc: "John Casquarelli" <jcas888 at yahoo.com>,
> bkn-english-646-fall-2009 at lists-1.liu.edu
> Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 1:01 AM
>
>
> Oh no no Alicia I wasn't saying that of you but the author. Sorry, I need
> to clarify that. From hearing you speak about your students I can tell you
> don't label and take the time to ride the ever changing wave of descriptions
> rumbling in a student.
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:55 PM, alicia berbenick <aberbenick at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=aberbenick@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>> No, to clarify, I was simply trying to point out that I have noticed
>> myself imposing my own methods of writing on others - without even giving a
>> thought to the fact that people learn to group and organize ideas in many
>> different ways. Reading about other methods in this chapter gave me some
>> ideas. Sorry that I must have came off as a "labeler" of people.
>>
>> Alicia
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM, John Casquarelli <jcas888 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jcas888@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Tue, 10/6/09, John Casquarelli <jcas888 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jcas888@yahoo.com>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: John Casquarelli <jcas888 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jcas888@yahoo.com>
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Assignment #4
>>> To: "anthony eid" <anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=anthonyeid1986@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 7:34 PM
>>>
>>>   I agree with you Tony.  Far too often it feels like academe prescribes
>>> learning systems that fit neatly in a box, allowing little creative
>>> diversity both from the perspective of the student and the teacher.  Not
>>> that any of the systems descibed in the book are not effective (I have used
>>> a couple myself when tutoring), but people can learn how to write in any
>>> number of ways (some not so concrete).  In addition, as I have experienced
>>> first hand in the short time that I've worked at the writing center, ESL
>>> students bring another element to the equation of writing (learning to write
>>> in different ways because of culture, etc.), and how many of us try to teach
>>> writing.
>>>
>>> --- On *Tue, 10/6/09, anthony eid <anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=anthonyeid1986@gmail.com>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: anthony eid <anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=anthonyeid1986@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Assignment #4
>>> To: "Alicia Berbenick" <aberbenick at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=aberbenick@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> Cc: bkn-english-646-fall-2009 at lists-1.liu.edu<http://mc/compose?to=bkn-english-646-fall-2009@lists-1.liu.edu>
>>> Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 3:32 PM
>>>
>>> I didn't like how the author prescribed specific methods to specific
>>> learners. I think it would have worked better to vaguely allude to the
>>> learners and not display them connected so concretely. For me, it is not
>>> learners but situations that guide my sessions. Students are multi-faceted
>>> bundles of writing history. Once you uncover one method that works to one
>>> issue that same issue may pop up and the method you used may be ineffective.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Alicia Berbenick <aberbenick at gmail.com<http://us.mc458.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aberbenick@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here you are all!
>>>> Alicia
>>>>
>>>>
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