[Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Fw: Re: Assignment #4

[anthony eid]

Oh no no Alicia I wasn't saying that of you but the author. Sorry, I need to
clarify that. From hearing you speak about your students I can tell you
don't label and take the time to ride the ever changing wave of descriptions
rumbling in a student.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:55 PM, alicia berbenick <aberbenick at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi guys,
> No, to clarify, I was simply trying to point out that I have noticed myself
> imposing my own methods of writing on others - without even giving a thought
> to the fact that people learn to group and organize ideas in many different
> ways. Reading about other methods in this chapter gave me some ideas. Sorry
> that I must have came off as a "labeler" of people.
>
> Alicia
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM, John Casquarelli <jcas888 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
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>> --- On *Tue, 10/6/09, John Casquarelli <jcas888 at yahoo.com>* wrote:
>>
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>> From: John Casquarelli <jcas888 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Assignment #4
>> To: "anthony eid" <anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 7:34 PM
>>
>>   I agree with you Tony.  Far too often it feels like academe prescribes
>> learning systems that fit neatly in a box, allowing little creative
>> diversity both from the perspective of the student and the teacher.  Not
>> that any of the systems descibed in the book are not effective (I have used
>> a couple myself when tutoring), but people can learn how to write in any
>> number of ways (some not so concrete).  In addition, as I have experienced
>> first hand in the short time that I've worked at the writing center, ESL
>> students bring another element to the equation of writing (learning to write
>> in different ways because of culture, etc.), and how many of us try to teach
>> writing.
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 10/6/09, anthony eid <anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: anthony eid <anthonyeid1986 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Bkn-english-646-fall-2009] Assignment #4
>> To: "Alicia Berbenick" <aberbenick at gmail.com>
>> Cc: bkn-english-646-fall-2009 at lists-1.liu.edu
>> Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 3:32 PM
>>
>> I didn't like how the author prescribed specific methods to specific
>> learners. I think it would have worked better to vaguely allude to the
>> learners and not display them connected so concretely. For me, it is not
>> learners but situations that guide my sessions. Students are multi-faceted
>> bundles of writing history. Once you uncover one method that works to one
>> issue that same issue may pop up and the method you used may be ineffective.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Alicia Berbenick <aberbenick at gmail.com<http://us.mc458.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aberbenick@gmail.com>
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>>> Here you are all!
>>> Alicia
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